He focused on her crapping on his bed. Hes radioactive, one studio head told THR. The latest fashion news, beauty coverage, celebrity style, fashion week updates, culture reviews, and videos on Vogue.com. I think she has a mental disorder thats the only break I think I can give her in this case. I suppose my real question is, are they saying she did it intentionally? I dont know. Please whitelist our site to get all the best deals and offers from our partners. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. Genuinely dont think he was innocent but also feel based in the evidence that he was being reactive. also the destruction of the idea of ptsd victims remember everything. Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. I believe her side and I believe some of his side. It goes so far that in this case they claim that AH is acting fake abuse for years, from texts to messages to pictures, fake bruises, fake conversations to her family, therapist, etc. One is a cluster B nutcase who has been physically abusive to her partners and is the perpetual victim. Why is he so creepy and why are people attracted to him? Yet while Blasey Ford became an immediate cause clbre, a truth-to-misogynist-power meme, a metric of liberal feminist bona fides, Amber Heard has become a punch line. They were mean, codependent. Unless youve been living under a rock for the past few weeks, youll know that the ex-spouses are back in court. Ive ranted about people before to my friends but Im not abusive. He refuses to look at her. So much so, in fact, that some fans are blaming Jason Momoas Aquaman co-star Amber Heard for the end of his marriage. No human is 100% evil, not even Amber Heard. Too many people are using this trial to air out their sexism, misogyny, and homo/transphobia which is not okay. Media organisations even resorted to digging up photos of her smiling in an attempt to prove that she couldnt possible have been abused. The latest trial was related to Heard's op-ed in The Washington Post that was published in 2018. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. Well rally, we always rally, but right here, right now, it feels shit. It's a good campaign. apparently saying he wants to rape her corpse is just angry ranting. The bottle story is an obvious lie. (Yet these two are older than Depp, make Santa Claus look buff, and are greasy, sweaty, sickly-looking alcoholics. Especially after being arrested for domestic abuse with her wife a few years back. There are factors that point to a power dynamic that would lend to abuse on his part. I also believe his version of the story of the headbutt (she was hitting him, he grabbed her flailing arms and accidentally head butted her) although, I believe amber in that he probably head butted her a lot harder than he claims, which did leave bruises. May 4, 2022 at 1:10 PM. I dont think this trial makes anyone look good and they probably should have both just ended the relationship and moved on. Ditto. It seems like she was trying to remember, They told me to say eggshells.. Always. I'm also glad you mentioned the homo/transphobia. Lol. Tired of her flying monkeys as this is too close to personal experiences. Its a sad truism that no one is as hard on women as other women. idk. I didn't believe they could do anything for me. #JasonMomoa #LisaBonet, Antoinette (@starshine_3) January 13, 2022. Hes nasty and disturbed and shes nasty and disturbed he hurt her and she hurt him and I believe her. Aggressive_Elk_1754 3 mo. These are all awfully specific, humiliating details, and they only bolster Heards credibility. submissions or preferences. They were both completely toxic though and the trial is a mess . His 15 year live-in girlfriend and mother to his children as well as Wynonna Ryder (dated 4 years) have come out in his defense. On Twitter user stated: "what johnny depp is doing in court right now is admirable. posts, comments and submissions available. Completely believable. The minutiae being combed through at the trial has come to feel less like a lawsuit and more like a torturous exorcism of the past, a thorough and painful raking over the coals of their four-year entanglement. I think most people that drink more may self report conservatively. You might say Pirates Of The Caribbean is Johnny Depp and vice versa, he said. It might be crazy but 10000% bigger person for not getting physical back with her. if you read my response Im not a die hard fan. . I want to believe that some of us are offline and mildly compassionate or compassionate in a way that doesnt get tweeted aboutthat youre all out there being nice to each other and Im reporting on a tiny cluster of internet users with pitchforks. Johnny Depp engaged in abusive behaviours (name calling, talking about killing himself, etc) due to the abuse against him but I do not believe he is an abuser or Amber Heard is a victim of abuse. It's interesting because in some regards we are conditioned to believe her. Were watching people actively seek out humor in domestic abuse as Roe v. Wade is terrorized by pro-lifers and as we see yet more episodes of racially aggravated violence. By continuing to browse, you agree to the use of cookies. . BUT only one of them decided to put all this shit out in the public initially, and that was amber. a place for discussion surrounding the current civil trial between johnny depp and amber heard, moderated in an unbiased manner. Mondays testimony ended with one of Depps female lawyers cant have his first chair, a man, go after the little lady, am I right? Except its not normal. This is imo spot on and exactly what I believe. This is really weird to me considering she would call him a "monster" intoxicated and claimed to want him sober. Both have stated that they don't believe men are victims of abusive women, that the man always has the power in the relationship and therefore it's their own fault if they are harmed by their "victim.". We strive to provide you with a high quality community experience. Sometimes it's important to wear the same thing twice". Please dont tell me she was sober. Speaking to Channel 7's Sunrise on Thursday, psychologist and broadcaster Cooper Lawrence did "not mince her words", to quote the show's co-host Natalie Barr. Hes just as toxic as she is and vice versa from my pov. & this isn't me being a fangirl as I have 0 interest in both but I've followed the trial closely and Amber Heard is straight up not traumatised even . First of all, there is the obvious fact that he is a man and she is a woman. Johnny also misconstrued amber wanting to help him with drugs: she tried to encourage sobriety on him and he saw it as nagging and controlling, also didnt believe he had a problem, and when he did see the problem, his pride led him to having a hard time admitting that to amber after he spent years denying it. Its time to draw a line. Some weeks the internet is buoyant, all of us kept afloat by daft dresses and Kardashian weddings and Marvel actors saying theyve never been in the same room. But I am genuinely in good faith surprised that this is not the consensus, so perhaps Im missing something. But I mean, calm down Johnny. Johnny, an addict, looks for the coke and trashes the room in the process. Amber story doesnt make sense?? I think she manipulated him and pushed him, he then became abusive in return, and then she became unhinged trying to make him the devil. Heres my take: I think they were in an abusive and toxic relationship. Unfortunately, as of this writing, it looks like Jason Momoa took down the initial announcement which was made on his Instagram page. The details of both Depp and Heards testimonies are harrowing all by themselvesgruesome, violent, and containing deeply intimate anecdotes about their relationship. . Four men and three women sit on Depps jury. Alicia Lutes / Twitter / Twitter. Why does such vile testimony consistently elicit contempt from Johnny Depp? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Last week #JusticeForJohnnyDepp was trending on Twitter; yesterday, it was #AmberTurd. Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. He added that right now, the pinnacle of negativity in the filmmaking business is being accused of domestic abuse, sexual abuse, violence and what weve seen is almost immediately terminations and cancellations. Please select a reason for escalating this post to the WTE moderators: Connect with our community members by starting a discussion. She had like mini marks and she even stated in the testimony that some were a few days after etc where bruising would increase or worsen if you were PUNCHED by a MAN. Even if its aggressive or violent. We free each other -to be who we are learning to become. They end it with J & L. After the statement comes a number of photos, including one of an early evening sky, and one of someone holding a bird while wearing a shirt that says May my soul shout love.'. When I go into the courtroom . She seems extremely manipulative. Women are labelled as money grabbers or dismissed as attention-seekers. After Depp allegedly threw a cellphone at her face, striking her in the eye, the 30-year-old actress filed for divorce. Specifically, fans think they mightve started seeing one another while working together; similar to how she initially started dating Johnny Depp. Broadly speaking, witness testimonies can be persuasive, and with two actors in the dock, we can never be sure of the absolute truth. They first met on the set of the film. Thats not to say shes not awful, but I believe her story. Again though, that would be a mutual fight, and him using way more force than necessary to stop her, not him chasing her down and beating her. Regarding the SA: I dont believe the bottle incident, that doesnt make sense at all. While Mr Marks said he didnt know of any, he went on to speculate, I assume Amber Heard thought her career would get better by bringing this out. It is plain misogyny. Heard is being systematically jeered at and ridiculed like a medieval criminal in the stocks as she catalogs historic abuse, as she alleges rape. If somebody did the things she did Id prob loose it too. Again, not getting into either of their respective guilt or innocence here but I do think there is worthwhile evidence in this case to examine from both parties. She took a sedative to knock her out in the same house with her abuser. Registered office: 3rd floor, Latin Hall, Golden Lane, Dublin 8. Im sure he probably was abusive in some way by being reactive. Why do people believe him? The defamation trial between Mr Depp and Ms Heard began on Monday 11 April in Fairfax, Virginia following Mr Depps lawsuit against his ex-wife in March 2019. I wouldn't think the two of them would come out in his defense if he had been violent. Through his lawyers, he accused Heard of trying to extend her fifteen minutes of fame. 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